At long last
The Oregon State Police have published the application form for a permit to purchase a firearm. It is here.
Here's a pen. Here's a clipboard. Take a number. Sit down.
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Always thought it was more about a public listing of gun owners that an approval/permit process
ReplyDeleteWhy are gun owners so nervous about people knowing they're armed? Are they unable to defend themselves?
DeleteMore useless bureaucracy.
ReplyDeleteThere has been so much drama for a Measure that will probably never take effect and would not reduce gun crime if it did.
ReplyDeleteY'all keep talking like we should just give up on the idea of banning guns. The answer is no. I've been told there will be no compromise, and I accept those terms. There will be no compromise.
DeleteYou think there's drama now? Just wait.
I wonder if many private citizens, in countries run by tyrants, have guns.
DeleteYou keep wondering. I'm gonna stay focused.
DeleteWhy do folks who want "reasonable gun control" actually want to ban guns but don't have the gonads to come out and say it? Boiling frog logic?
ReplyDeleteI'll say it. We've even offered reasonable compromise. We've been told there will be no compromise. So here we are.
DeleteThoughts and prayers...
I was outraged that the damned DMV made me license, insure and register my car! They even made me jump through a bunch of hoops to get a license to drive it on the road! Confiscation of my car is definitely coming soon! When they pry my cold, dead hands off of the steering wheel!
DeleteFatuous
DeleteI'm sure the felons in possession slingin fentanyl who are caught and released with AR-15s will dutifully abide by this new law, Jack.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/traffic-stop-leads-to-guns-drugs-in-portlands-hazelwood-neighborhood/ar-AA15oXI4
The guy that let them access the AR-15 will certainly have some things to think about going forward, won't they? It's about accountability. Maybe there should be penalties for "responsible" owners who keep high-powered death machines in their vehicles instead of locked in cabinets.
DeleteBean, the guns are almost always stolen. Let's start by enforcing the laws we have, not creating new (misguided) ones.
DeleteTell me about three laws we're not currently enforcing but should.
DeleteIt's weird how the very tool folks purchase to protect their property frequently ends up "stolen". It's almost like the tool is useless for that purpose.
DeleteIn San Jose, they're requiring insurance. The fun is just beginning.
ReplyDeleteDo you expect a member of the Hoovers or Gypsy Jokers to buy insurance? Harsh, mandatory sentences for criminal use of firearms, combined with political support for DAs and USAOs to accept cases for prosecution, are the only way to truly reduce gun violence. Right now, virtually no one is prosecuted for straw purchasing. Fentanyl dealers caught with guns routinely get those charges dismissed. Mike Schmidt and Natalie Wight are under no pressure to change that. We just want to make things difficult for those irritating folks who remain lawfully able to buy guns.
DeleteSo how you gonna apply harsh mandatory sentences to the kids who kill themselves with guns found (in the drawer, on the nightstand, in the closet, in mommy’s purse, behind the cushions, etc. etc. etc.) We have a LOT of such incidents. I don’t think those kids are going to be deterred from playing with guns by the threat of “harsh mandatory sentences.” And if you think that juries are ready to send people up who helped kill their kid with their carelessness, well, sure, if they’re black or brown or poor. But otherwise, no.
DeleteThe bottom line is that the ammosexuals who constantly fantasize about self-defense put themselves in a prison of feeling like they have to have immediate access to a weapon, which turns out to be an efficient cause of a lot of accidental deaths and successful suicides.
Got the popcorn ready. This is going to be a long show.
ReplyDeletegot another one for you Jack: https://www.koin.com/local/multnomah-county/felon-arrested-after-guns-found-during-portland-traffic-stop/ felon in possession ... impose the supposed 5 year federal statutory minimum on the known perps and the problem goes away.
ReplyDeleteNot a word in there about the weapons being obtained illegally. Measure 114 tightens up the loophole that allowed this guy to amass the guns and ammo without detection. BUt I guess that's too much to ask.
DeleteAs a felon he never would have been able to obtain guns under the existing background check system: https://www.oregon.gov/osp/programs/cjis/pages/firearms-instant-check-system.aspx
DeleteMy point is why not actually throw him in the clink for a nickel, as the law currently provides? it's easier and quicker to get booked and released from Multnomah county as a gun-toting felon than to legally buy a gun.
The idea that if we only enforced current laws, that we would end our unique situation as the only rich country where levels of gun violence are this horrific is beyond wishful thinking, into hallucinatory fantasy. Please stop standing in the way of meaningful reform.
DeleteMy mind’s made up. Don’t try confusing me with your version of facts.
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