What a difference a month makes
It's been a hell of a day in America so far.
The vaccine news is all good.
All of the swing states have now certified the fact that Biden beat Trump.
Biden has reportedly started getting his security briefings.
And Orange Caligula's virus quack, Scott Atlas, has resigned from his government position. Now he presumably heads back to Stanford, where I hope the students and faculty run him and his Hoover cronies out to a nice off-campus strip mall.
"The fact that Biden beat Trump." Here we go again. If anything the facts on the election are in more dispute than ever. Did you see that Pennsylvania sent out 1.8 million mail-in ballots, and got back 2.5 million? Explain that. Then there was the fact that a water main broke on election night stopping the count in Georgia. Only later in the week it turned out not to be a fact at all.
ReplyDeleteIs this one of those things where the Dems are so noble they get to decide the truth? It seems like just yesterday the same people were saying that Trump was a Russian secret agent colluding with Putin. And Bush and Cheney were saying that Saddam was responsible for 9/11 and had weapons of mass destruction.
Look, Biden stole this thing fair and square. In a few weeks it'll probably be done. And to be fair, the media isn't covering both sides of this story so it's hard to get the details. Twitter actually bans some of it. But saying it's a fact that Biden beat Trump is not a reality-based statement. And saying it certainly doesn't make it true. Otherwise the Mueller report would have been a whole lot different.
Oh, and it's a little annoying hearing Good Old Joe talking about bringing us all together. He's like a car thief who steals your car, then calls you up and offers you a ride to work.
If you have to, think of it as the Houston Astros' rings. Or the New England Patriots'. They won, too.
Delete"It's a fact that Houston beat their opponent in the World Series." Nope, it doesn't sound any better that way either. Houston may have won and been awarded a ring and had a championship parade... but if you cheat you don't get credit for beating anyone. You cheated.
DeleteThere were several mysterious spikes in Pennsylvania...nothing gradual in the curve as the count continued. No, these were vertical spikes that occurred all at once. That alone suggests fraud. They added up the votes from those spikes and Biden had around 600,000. Trump had 1,320.
Wow, that Joe is a popular guy. That explains all that incredible Joe Biden fever during the campaign.
You're from Jersey, Jack. Are you really going to play dumb here? I suspect you know what happened but you're taking the opportunity to rub it in by saying things that aren't true. Hey, no problem. I can respect that. Trash talking has always been part of the game.
If you have links to stories about these suspicious occurrences, post them so people can look at them. I'm willing to be persuaded that Biden stole the election. I doubt it, but I'm open to the suggestion. I don't believe a lot of what we're told. I don't believe Sarah Pailin was pregnant with her last child. I don't believe bin Laden died the way we were told he did, or even at the time they say he did. I believe World Trade Center 7 was purposely imploded. My list of rejections of official versions of events is long. I'm open to adding to it.
DeleteBut that said, the removal of Donald Trump is the best thing that's happened to this country in a long time. However it happened. So I'm happy that under the system we have, with the referees we have, Biden was declared the winner. If that's different from beating his opponent, go ahead and split those hairs.
Bill, those lefties at National Review have some thoughts for you:
ReplyDeletehttps://www.nationalreview.com/2020/11/trump-election-fraud-disgraceful-endgame/
The chief driver of the post-election contention of the past several weeks is the petulant refusal of one man to accept the verdict of the American people. The Trump team (and much of the GOP) is working backwards, desperately trying to find something, anything to support the president’s aggrieved feelings, rather than objectively considering the evidence and reacting as warranted.
DeleteAlmost nothing that the Trump team has alleged has withstood the slightest scrutiny. In particular, it’s hard to find much that is remotely true in the president’s Twitter feed these days. It is full of already-debunked claims and crackpot conspiracy theories about Dominion voting systems. Over the weekend, he repeated the charge that 1.8 million mail-in ballots in Pennsylvania were mailed out, yet 2.6 million were ultimately tallied. In a rather elementary error, this compares the number of mail-ballots requested in the primary to the number of ballots counted in the general. A straight apples-to-apples comparison finds that 1.8 million mail-in ballots were requested in the primary and 1.5 million returned, while 3.1 million ballots were requested in the general and 2.6 million returned.
Flawed and dishonest assertions like this pollute the public discourse and mislead good people who make the mistake of believing things said by the president of the United States.
If that mail-in ballot bit has been debunked than I apologize. I still think this thing is still in dispute. When the Astros won the World Series over the Dodgers nobody said the Dodgers still had legal recourse where they could challenge the results and win. Any punishment would be aimed at the Astros but it was over for the Dodgers, right? Well, in this case Trump still has some legal avenues left to dispute the results including a vote by the Pennsylvania legislature. So saying Biden beat Trump is premature and factually inaccurate. Technically, it's not over.
DeleteYes, technically, you can say “it’s not over.” But the only thing really going on is Trump continuing to grift the rubes, up to $170 million so far - it’s the one thing he’s ever cared about, and it’s all he’s been doing since the election, when he decided to stop playing at being President.
DeleteOne might have hoped that the well-to-do Republicans might have saved some of their money to try and reconstruct a Republican Party without Trump. It hardly seems worthwhile to "put good money after bad" or use it to file continuing lawsuits that are invariably dismissed or found without merit. Although it has been a long time, I remember some of those old time Republicans, some of them pretty bright, had nice manners, and if they were a bit stiff at times, it's not like they didn't have any sense of humor or spent all their time raging at the sky like the Trumpinistas of today. And if they spent their time listening to William F. Buckley Jr. and/or reading National Review, what was the harm? And some of them were even known to cross the aisle if they could get things done, back in the old days before the Republican party became like an "armed camp." If only they could shake themselves loose from all those "wing nuts" that they aligned with under Trump, the "fire and brimstone" neo-Nazis and racist conspiracy hunting second rate intellects for whom the Republican Party had to "dumb down" their platform into simple phrases. And then came the real "space cadets;" the Q-Anon cultists who are asserted to believe that "the last days" are upon us, and that the final battle between the Satanic Democrats and the Holy Trump - who will raise up an army of white Christians - will bring on a new age of prayer in the schools, $1.00 steaks, and re-education camps for "lib-er-als." I can't see any of the old time Republicans (if there are any left) "anointing" "the Donald" as the "elder statesman" of the Republican Party and having him advise on the strategies for the mid-term elections from his "throne" at Mar-a-Lago. But I've been wrong before.
ReplyDeleteAs far as sources I see a lot of this stuff on a site called the Gateway Pundit. The mail-in ballots thing was a quote from Rudy Giuliani's presentation to the GOP members of Pennsylvania's state legislature: "“You have two major gaps — you have the 672,770 votes that were not inspected by anyone secretly put into the ballot box and then you have this gap that I don’t understand between the mail-in ballots. You’ve sent out: 1.8 million and the number you counted: 2.5 million!” Rudy said.
ReplyDeleteHe continued, "“That’s totally impossible to explain other than what some of the other witnesses were suggesting that they were basically stuffing the ballot box. I believe what happened was that they never expected to be behind by 700,000 or 800,000 votes on election night. They expected to be behind by a couple hundred thousand — in Philadelphia to steal a couple hundred thousand votes, they do it every year, that’s not going to be tough. Now you have a real big problem so you had to create mail-in ballots, you had to stretch it out for a while…”
That's where I got it. By the way: The purely constitutional part of his argument is that the terms of the election are to be set up by the state legislature. In this case the Pennsylvania Supreme Court changed deadlines, etc...at the last minute. Even Alan Dershowitz says that the votes collected following these guidelines shouldn't count because the process was unconstitutional.
I admit I am vibing a lot of this. But that's what we all do everyday. I don't really know if Trump is real or a hologram. You have to make some assumptions. Maybe you look at John Brennan, James Clapper and Jim Comey as marvelous examples of leadership. I don't. I think they decided Trump was unfit for office and went about removing him. You tell me what that's called.
Incidentally, their opinion could be right but it was not their call to make. If we start overruling the voters or defrauding them, the United States of America really is over. Once again I apologize if my temper shown through. I've endured 3 years of bullshit over Russian collusion and it tends to wear you down.
More fun with Fulton County: The fine folks who gave us the story of the broken water main that burst - darn the luck - on the night of the elections forcing a delay in the count, have something more. Apparently during the recount the Fulton County servers crashed. You know the old saying: If it wasn't for bad luck Fulton County wouldn't have any luck at all.
ReplyDeleteWell at least we could still examine the servers. I mean Mueller never bothered to look at the Dems servers during his multi-year investigation, but that doesn't mean we can't, right?
Uh oh. Sidney Powell is now claiming that someone showed up and took the Fulton County servers away. They're now missing. It's such a shame really. Here Fulton County is trying so hard to run a clean election but they just can't seem to buy a break.
You had me at "Sidney Powell." If there is a more powerful legal mind and sharp wit in the U.S. we have yet to meet them.
DeleteSame rumor-based, evidence-free horse shit you've been hawking since the get-go. For a guy that claims to be a progressive, you sure are eager to propagate Trumpist fantasies about the election. In Pennsylvania, Matthew Brann, a (Republican, not that it should matter) federal judge had this to say in his ruling about the actual evidence presented by your boy Rudi in actual court (you know, where there are penalties for dishonesty, and meritless claims are denied):
Delete"“One might expect that when seeking such a startling outcome, a plaintiff would come formidably armed with compelling legal arguments and factual proof of rampant corruption," "That has not happened. Instead, this Court has been presented with strained legal arguments without merit and speculative accusations, unpled in the operative complaint and unsupported by evidence.”
“In the United States of America, this cannot justify the disenfranchisement of a single voter, let alone all the voters of its sixth most populated state. Our people, laws, and institutions demand more.”
"At bottom, plaintiffs have failed to meet their burden to state a claim upon which relief can be granted."
Instead of working so hard to put a shine of truth on nonsensical turds, you maybe should put your paranoid mind set to work and ask yourself if the much more obvious scam,-wherein a bullshit artist, fraudster, and con man makes up a fantastical conspiracy that requires a lot of money to fight-is a better explanation of events than nationwide election fraud, in which the fraudsters cleverly rigged the presidential race, but didn't bother with senate or house races. For pity's sake.
I call them as I see them. You make an interesting point though. Biden didn't carry anything down ballot. It was a terrible night for the Democrats and it was a great night for Trump winning Texas, Ohio and Florida and carrying all but one of the bellwether counties.
DeleteThe only places where Biden did surprisingly great were a few cities in these deciding swing states and it was during the night after the count was stopped. Reports have thousands of votes with only his name checked off like they didn't have time to fill out the rest. They were too busy closing the gap.
You're asking me to believe we just stumbled into some pockets of Biden Mania amidst a country that was not that impressed by Good Old Joe? Hey, you're free to tell yourself whatever you want.
Oh, and I'm immune to the accusations that this makes me a Trump supporter. That's weak sauce. I look at stuff from both sides. In fact, I had already read this judge's statement that you presented with great fanfare as if it proves anything. I was for Tulsi Gabbard in this election from before she even announced. That's who I voted for as a write-in.
Flipping Pennsylvania could be seen as disenfranchising all the voters of the state unless the election showed another winner. If that's the case the vote of the People of Pennsylvania was ripped off. Ultimately a stolen election isn't taken from the other candidate - it's stolen from the American People. I think that's what happened here.
I also try not to be swayed by the religious zeal of the mob. That's why I didn't fall for the idea of Trump as a secret agent working directly for Putin. It seemed like a bad episode of Get Smart. And believe me a lot of people accused me of being in the Trump camp after that.
Funny thing: When collusion turned out to be bullshit and the Mueller Report came out, nobody called to say, "Hey, I'm sorry - you were right." The Dems didn't even mention it at their convention after all that drama. How did you feel about that particular nonsensical turd?
By the way, I like that phrase "nonsensical turds." Great band name. But does it mean you only believe in turds that make sense?
The Mueller Report? Do you mean the one in which "Trump associates repeatedly lied to investigators about their contacts with Russians, and President Trump refused to answer questions about his efforts to impede federal proceedings and influence the testimony of witnesses."? Or the one whose investigations "produced 37 indictments; seven guilty pleas or convictions; and compelling evidence that the president obstructed justice on multiple occasions."? Or maybe you are referring to the report that conclusively showed that "Russian interference in the 2016 election was “sweeping and systemic.” Is that the one? I'm confused. The Mueller Report states that "if the Special Counsel’s Office felt they could clear the president of wrongdoing, they would have said so. Instead, the Report explicitly states that it “does not exonerate” the President and explains that the Office of Special Counsel “accepted” the Department of Justice policy that a sitting President cannot be indicted." That Mueller Report?
DeleteThis thing just keeps getting deeper. In addition to the CIA, FBI, the BBC, BB King, Doris Day, zombie Hugo Chavez, China, Venezuela, the Grand Duchy of Fenwick, Republican governors and Secretaries of State, Bigfoot, corrupt judges, German voting machine shadow empires, and the DHS, it turns out that the commie Bill Barr and the entire Justice Dept. is throwing the thing for Biden. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/william-barr-doj-fbi-voter-fraud-2020-election
DeleteObviously you would reference Fox News, which has been in cahoots with Barr (and Soros) from the beginning!
DeleteOne thing about the anti-Trump frothing we've lived through for 4 years is that it obscures a dangerous development worldwide where governments are trying to use technology to stifle dissent and mold public opinion.
DeleteIn France there's a security bill they're trying to pass right now that would outlaw journalists from covering police brutality. That's France, the bastion of democracy that gave us the Statue of Liberty.
Here at home we see the big tech companies playing fast and loose with their ability to censor content. We all know there's a short window after a story breaks where the public is learning about it before moving on. If that window can be controlled, the story loses a lot of its impact.
When the Hunter Biden laptop story broke in a New York newspaper it was shut down on social media. You remember Hunter: We'll have the President, the First Lady and now the First Crackhead. Anyway, the media moguls testified that the censorship never should have happened. It was a big mistake - sorry. But by now the golden window of relevancy had slipped shut again.
The other day Sidney Powell and Trump's lawyers went their separate ways. So how did social media handle that? First the so-called mainstream media blared the headlines like "Too Crazy for Trump." But at least we'd be able to hear from Sidney Powell herself giving her side of the story, right? No, during the height of the interest about it Sidney Powell's twitter account was shut down.
This is the type of thing we should be angry and frightened about. Not whether or not Trump is the boogie man.
Tucker Carlson gave Powell plenty of opportunity to make her point and provide evidence for her accusations. She declined. What's your point?
DeleteWait, I must have missed the part where Tucker became God sitting in judgment of everyone. Don't bet against Sidney Powell.
DeleteYou'll be glad to know that if you go to Sidney's website, you can give her money to fight the good fight. No nonsense about a litigation fund, or a trust account that dedicates funds to the election fight. Nope, just make out the check or card charge to Sidney Powell. I'm sure she'll use it wisely.
DeleteAsk General Flynn how wisely she'll use it. After Comey sent the FBI agents to set up General Flynn they both felt he hadn't been lying. A standard report was filed that later disappeared. Then the Mueller prosecution team regenerated the document from their collective memories but neglected to tell the court it wasn't the original. Sidney brought that out as well as other malfeasance by the prosecutors. She pretty much shredded their case. I think she's the real deal.
DeleteFlynn plead guilty to lying about his contacts with Rooshia. It's not like she got him off. Then Justice tried to play games and withdraw prosecution, which the judge didn't buy. Flynn's a convicted felon that got a pardon for not ratting out the Don. Sidney is a lower level grifter than Donnie, but she'll still rake it in from the rubes. In that sense, I agree that she's the real deal.
DeleteShe's a real stable genius. The suit she just filed in Wisconsin demanded "security camera recording of all rooms used in the voting process at the TCF Center." The TCF Center is in Detroit. You can't make this stuff up.
Delete"You can't make this stuff up"? Come on, it's not that earthshaking.
DeleteThey might as well call it the WTF Center for all I know about it.
It's pretty funny that she filed suit in Wisconsin and wanted to make her case on evidence from Michigan. Didn't you used to write for the late night shows? This is all teed up for you.
DeleteAre you backing Mike and Sidney in their call for a re-vote, under martial law, conducted by the military, in-person voting with photo ID only?
DeleteCary, Speaking of teeing it up for me: Maybe I'm a little more understanding of screw-ups ever since I made a mistake in 75 countries in one night.
DeleteThere was this Senator from Vermont named Jim Jeffords who changed from Republican to Independent caucusing with the Democrats. As I remember it he crossed the aisle back in 2001 and flipped the Senate.
My joke identified him as from New Hampshire since I personally had never heard of him and the articles I read on the Internet hadn't either.
It got by and went on and I guess the people in Vermont were not happy. Come to think of it, the people of New Hampshire might have been chapped as well.
At any rate, Leno started the next show - not with a joke - but with an apology for getting that wrong. It didn't really mater that night but by the time the show was eligible for a rerun it was a glaring screw-up and probably put the whole thing in the garbage can.
Meanwhile I'm someone who kicked himself as a banquet waiter if I forgot someone's iced tea. And now here I was with the #1 person in late night apologizing for my fuck-up. I also knew it had been televised in 75 countries so it was a hell of a lot bigger than an overlooked iced tea.
If Sidney Powell was responsible for this mistake, I certainly can't get too huffy about it.
But surely you are huffy about her call for sedition?
DeleteI don't want to go all fringe here, but I've got a feeling some heavy stuff is going down behind the scenes. The wild rumors have it that the thing in Germany with the servers might have included an armed confrontation between the CIA and the executive branch with the military also involved. I'm not trying to vouch for anything here...I'm just sayin'....
DeleteAy caramba, man! If that's true, we're in a very dark place.
DeleteNow, I had you all set up with the Shirley line from Naked Gun, and you let it go by. I'm not going to keep tossing these softballs right over the plate if you're not going to swing.
I was rooting for Trump as I thought it would send a message to all of the ‘resist’ types that people are sick of the lot of them. In fact I thought that after 2016 they would had gotten the message but the very next day I was listening to liberal talk radio and they said that the Democrats didn’t go progressive enough. Can’t fix stupid I guess.
ReplyDeleteIf Trump did lose fair and square it is pointless to prolong the inevitable and no I don’t think that The Gateway Pundit has any credibility. I read their stuff and most of it is wishful thinking at best. Time for Trump to bow out and regroup for 2024 when America will be begging for him back. Hopefully he will have learned his own lessons by then but I have my doubts with him. He should had turned off Twitter after the SOTU.
I was extremely unimpressed that the Dems didn't give Trump a chance. It violated my sense of fairness and it was definitely counterproductive for America. I figured his term would be like his gaming career in Atlantic City. It would start out great and then go to hell. He wouldn't need the help.
ReplyDeleteTrying to trip him up from the moment he took office was petty and stupid. We wasted some of the last good years before the pandemic playing gotcha with Russian collusion. Then after causing non-stop chaos with such charlatans as Adam Schiff, the Dems said, "Aren't you sick and tired of all this chaos?"
The Dems would have been better served finding a candidate to run against him who would trounce him fair and square. I thought that person was Tulsi Gabbard but she's against our endless wars of intervention so they jumped on her and destroyed her. Hillary called her a Russian asset. Sound familiar?
Meanwhile John Brennan wrote Obama in his own handwriting and said it was Hillary's idea for the Russia collusion bit. This was early on. Mueller knew there was no case for it as well but they just ran it into the ground to be a pain in the ass.
They put their own political ambitions way ahead of what was good for America and I hope they pay for that sometime.